I do know first hand that these children develop mental health and addiction disorders and social ramifications that I cannot even have the time nor space to list. And I feel there is not enough information to make any such diagnosis. But I can say without a doubt I share Tims passion for wildlife, outdoors & Conservation. In seeing the documentary and reading a lot about TT, it was obvious he had some serious mental issues. I would never put myself in their way, just as I would never interact with wild/primitive humans. I haven't found anything online but just curious if anyone took a little trip out there to take pictures or video and see what's changed. Not surprising the fox followed his every step. Bravo and I'd love to read other things you've written/researched. Tim knew he was going to die at this point and wanted to save Amie from the same fate. Commercial aircraft fly over the polar bear habitat so chartered planes (or ships) could drop animal carcuses over the region until we can figure out how to cool our planet down to re-form the sea ice. You don't skimp on the tough issues either. (National Park Service 2003) The same bears he claimed to protect. I respect the man. Or he could have done this out of fear, thus wanting to please her. Im not a Psychologist but on molestation I could be. I am sad for Amy. Tim exposed the bears appearing on tv may have even given hunters all over america the idea to hunt the 160 bears the PS allows to be killed in katmi and kodiak. There have been only a handful of fatal wolf attacks in the last 100 years in all of North America, and most of these involved rabid animals. The way he curses society and material things makes one wonder malibu? I mean, sure, it's great but all animals-including humans-are the result of millions of years of a brutal and cold struggle.Just watch videos uploaded by regular people of hyenas and wild dogs hunting prey in Africa. Treadwell, also known as Grizzly Man, died at 46 alongside his girlfriend Amie Huguenard on Oct. 5, 2003. (Fulton 2004, Ellis 2003, pg 5), Meanwhile, searchers excavating the bears cache back in camp discover Amie Huguenard, whos arm and fingers had been exposed to the daylight when investigators first entered the camp. His head connected to a small piece of (spine}, and what has been described as a frozen grimace on his face. 2003, Personal diary entries. I used to be a cop and Tim lived in my sector. [13] But I was originally skeptical. Amy should have ran in the opposite direction. Willy then lands again about 1 mile west of the camp on the western shore of the lake. After all, someone hit record on the camera. The remains of Timothy Treadwell, 46, and Amie Huguenard, 37, both of Malibu, Calif., were found Monday at Katmai National Park and Preserve on the Alaska Peninsula. Great read. Do not feed them. Treadwell appears to have some prior encounters with bears, but his and his girlfriends arrival was untimely given that the parks food supply was less plentiful than typical during the season of their visit. He was in a manic cycle which I think he liked and made sure to push himself into one during bear season. I forgot about it years ago and came here unintentionally. Alaska is tough living bears are tough tim wasnt needing the comforts of malibu. As soon as that bear started dragging him off as a food source. THE POLAR BEARS THANK YOU. [1] Took some digging. while pointing to the right. I dont believe this for a minute. A devastating and heartrending take on grizzly bear activists Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard, who were killed in October of 2003 while living among grizzlies in Alaska. This was excellent. Grizzly is just common usage in the lower 48, having first been used during the Lewis and Clark expedition when they referred to a brown bear with grizzled appearance. Shouldn't have to work that way. Props to trainer Mr. Seus, but after reading this article, I would have to say that more credit for these large feats of acting and creating believable scenes of violent fights successfully and in always leaving every make-believe fight contestant, remarkably unscathed! Please leave nature alone. But let's face it, no one deserves the kind of tormented life or death Timothy endured. Thats the risk we have to take to see the last remaining symbol of wilderness. No Willy. Rest Easy Tim & Amie. Why would she as far away from it as he is? As Tim leaves the tent, investigators believe that Amie instinctively turns the camera on, possibly as her message in a bottle, and then asks Tim if the bear is still out there, and almost immediately the bear attacks. The older, larger bear that killed Tim and Amie had been ear tagged in 1990 after the Valdez-Alaska oil spill as part of a larger research project, and had the number 141 tattooed on the inside of its upper lip. I remember about 15 years ago or something my dad showed me an email PowerPoint thing about Timothy treadwell attack that used to get passed around. Specifically learn about bipolar mania and hypomania. Obviously what Timothy did was wrong for both himself, Amie, and bears, but unlike a lot of the reviews here I can't find myself laying the blame on him. I remember once out at my bear viewing area sitting alone one day, and feeling a bit sleepy in the warm sun I decided to lay back and close my eyes for a moment, when I remember feeling that something was watching me. Later, as the helicopter was being loaded, a second smaller bear approximately 3 years old seemed to be stalking the rangers and it was shot and killed as well. Autopsy images and audio of Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard. Very well writtne , thank you for writing such a wild piece about a wild perosn. It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. If this were true, then we would have hundreds, possibly even thousands of bears hunting humans each year, which is just not the case and has been an argument made since the early 1960s when bears were first trapped and studied. For more small miracles, re our slithering air tasting friends, Deity's grace that I don't live in Australia (poisonous snakes HQ).Now back to the article, the absolutely unforgivable was no bear spray. On October 5th, 2003, grizzly bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were mauled to death by a grizzly bear while camping in Katmai National Park. Its a lifetime, and even with adrenaline is slowed to a crawl. Ranger Ellis, armed with a 40 cal. Well written. For starters, he changed his last name to his mother's maiden name. He caused his own death & hers. So, attacks. It is possible that this incident would have occurred no matter what precautions Tim and Amie might have taken. The bear keeps its distance, and when it appears that this will be like any other encounter, Tim decides to tape at least the audio portion for use in future presentations, yelling out to Amie to turn the camera on, which startles the bear, who had been still up to this point, and triggers the attack. Again, it would have to take in-depth research to reveal exactly what his mental health issue was. Aimee wasnt afraid the best i can tell in the one shot she appears in i think two things she was obviously trying to stay out of tims shot and was trying not to look the bear in the eyes she was hiding her face from the bear i see aimee trying to bond and gain acceptance from tim im that shot. David Croall.. If you knew Dave, my Father's email address: [emailprotected] Thanks again for your work,Brad. However, because the food was in short supply throughout the fall, grizzlies were more hostile than usual. Please reach out for mental help. Very, very sad. I did a whole lot of research into molestation and a lot of Tims behavior fits into the personality of someone who has been molested. The author states "bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear, and this is the bear identified by Hertzog in Grizzley Man as the bear that probably killed Tim and Amie. No where to go, no tree to climb, no police officer to call, and left screaming, running around the only barrier left between her and the bear, only to have the bear finally just go over the top and finally catch her? At the same time, it would been feeling wrong to receive any money from it. However, in cases where individuals were able to drive a bear away during night encounters, but then moved away from the victim, either on purpose, or by the bear returning and testing this healthy person driving them off, the bear has in nearly every case dragged the victim even farther, and then killed and consumed him or her. Who is Charles Luther Manson? Tim, and those fake Utube audio's, all in the same pile! Sadly, I don't think there was anything Tim or Amy could have done at this point. (Ellis 2003, pg 3). (Gaede 2005, et al), Tim and Amies friends have also speculated that bear #141 was an abused bear, because it had been previously trapped, tranquilized and tattooed, and that the bear had actually hunted Tim and Amie that night, and came for them. He was just plain lucky for 13 years and became over confident in his own abilities. Tim Treadwell was an idiot and a mentally ill man child who as a grown man still felt the adolescent urge to defy authority. In the last paragraph of the "Discovery and Investigation" section, you mention that investigators performed a necropsy on the bear on Friday, October 8. For an almost forgot, don't know how much is born with versus the TV and film, but slap the child's hand when he or she reaches out to touch someone's dog. 2004, On camera interview: Grizzly Man Movie. Katmai park ranger Joel Ellis received the call from Andrew Airways at 1:35 PM. Amie had only spent a few weeks, each of the three years that she had been to Alaska. Wildlife filmmaker and outdoor guide. Ranger Ellis states that he saw a bear about 30 feet away. 2004, On camera dialog: Grizzly Man Movie. A scream. My very own silence of the lamb(s) well before the film. After all, she had screamed earlier and was successful in driving the bear away. If he wasnt born intellectually challenged, perhaps he was psychologically traumatized by events of his past. However, from statements made by Willy Fulton, the pilot that transported Tim and Amie in and out each year, this was a bear he had seen before on previous flights and was just a dirty rotten bear, that Tim didnt like anyway, and wanted to be friends with but never happened. As far as inconsistencies with sound and distance. You meet the wrong person at the wrong time and you're dead, too. Sunao Adelstein: Who Is she? Apparently, Tim never read the data on nighttime bear attacks. But what I do know, is about my own experience working in the field of criminology and psychology. 2002, Great Montana Bear Stories: Riverbend Publishing. Well after bashing tim a bit i'll say i love the guy see alot of myself in him. Nice writing, straight facts and authors feelings and opinions later also on point. Seen a lot of Tim bashing here. 2003 Park Service Incident Report pages 2,3,9. And everyone saw it coming except him. NATURE ?? A former heroin addict, the 46-year-old found solace with the grizzlies - who he spoke to, played with. (Van Daele 2005, Readers Digest 2005). You hear the gf say "is it STILL out there?" and then a few minutes later Timothy is heard saying "hel me! (Liggett 2003). Who knows, all I can defiantly say is that he was very childlike, and obviously wanted to stay in a protected, child-like world. I only hope that the end came quick for Amie. 2003, Scene Investigatorif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2','ezslot_22',134,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2-0'); We thank our friends at GPSTS.org for supporting us. The coastal version referred to in Alaska as brown bears (ursus arctos), most of whom would weigh in excess of 1000 pounds. After he was discharged from the hospital, Tim decided to travel to Alaska and watch bears at the urging of Terry. He was no warrior. Hugo MD down there in 2017 comments area gets ONE star. The one rule he should have broken but ironically never did was not to be armed. I believe that Amie more than likely ran after the bear a short distance, as it was dragging Tim up the trail screaming at the top of her lungs and striking the bear with the frying pan once again in a last ditch effort to drive the bear away, but was then pushed back to the tent a second time. That was cutting it thin stated Ellis. What a girl. I would wager he was tormented w sexuality issues, and couldn't come out of the closet. Emery was on a charter flight over Hallo Bay in Katmai National Park with a film crew from National Geographic, when they spotted a guy on the ground desperately waving his arms. Hello !I looked into a doku about a photographer from Switzerland, which has been spending a lot of time in Alasca, filming bears in this doku i heard about Tim and Amie and afterwards i wanted to know more i am thankful for your words and that you gave Amie "a place" in this story its tragic, i think she knew what was going on but we all know, what love has to do with it he has had no fear that is important to understand this ending of 2 lifes very sad and brutal but he was the only one to make choices, after regarding that special bear i am very sad about the death of Tim and Amie but i am thankful, you brought YOUR thoughts into the internet, so i can try do understand, what has happened ! RIP Timothy and Amie. That bear ate the finger that he flips off the rest of society with in his so called documentary. Look at how many idiots get killed driving drunk? Thank you for not pursuing in publising the book, thats so human of you and tells more about what type of person you are. This is an excerpt from a Readers Digest article: Timothy Treadwell was the sort of guy most Alaskans loved to hate. Bears in Katmai National Park typically begin to den sometime in October or November and go into hyperpagia in early September, as they try to gain as much weight as possible prior to denning by mass feeding. It was posted to draw traffic to his UTube page. 2003 Park Service Incident Report; pages 1-9. He mightve still alived had he stayed inside the tent when the bear was approaching, unfortunately his delusion cost the lives of 1 woman and 3 bears. Dead within 15 seconds.Some have interjected with their own imagination inventing that high velocity or 3 1/2" were used. Now think about the fact that up till the end of the last Ice Age, most of the world was filled with even more ferocious and massive beasts than currently exist. We can only speculate. I found it very interesting and very well explained. deer slugs beats the highest power rifle at close range, and this is precisely why the rangers use 12 guage with slugs. The grizzly bear is thought to have killed Timothy, a documentary filmmaker, and environmentalist, along with his partner Amie. The biggest problem was trying to get anywhere near them. As for the recording, I believe its real. Calling him nuts. No gun, no weapon of any kind except for a frying pan, screaming was all she had left. After barely graduating high school, Tim left for Southern California and ended up in Long Beach. 2006, Email correspondence. Appearing as though she were peacefully asleep except that her body, like Tims, had been mostly eaten by the bear. Anyone that spends as much time in the field as Tim and I have, will no doubt have had similar experiences. Grizzly bears are one of the largest apex predators in North America, other than man, they have no predators, they are kings of the forest and if it moves, to the grizzly, thats a meal. There are several ways to determine whether one of these recordings is real or not. You did an amazing job. Wish she'd had a gun, in a reasonable caliber. Anyways thank you to the writer for not being like everyone else . Greatings from Dsseldorf. As a new film. (Im not convinced of this. Stephen King could not have dreamed of a more frightening sequence of events. He was very passionate about bears, but lacked in common sense and healthy fear of wild animals. Grizzly bears usually enter camping areas at a walk and at night. A copy editor would have helped you clarify long run-on sentences and punctuation errors. In this footage, Amie is obviously nervous and scared as she leans away from the bear. Very informative and interesting! That will not happen again. I hope that the Park Service has more strict rules since then. (Van Daele 2004). However, I do not believe that Amies screams attracted the bear like a predator call. Take a clinical psychology course and try again. As modest as the author clearly is, I feel the author can spare some of (his?) Video and still camera equipment, also found at the site, were later analyzed by Alaska State Troopers where it was discovered that the last remaining 6 minutes of video tape, which was found still in the camera bag, had captured the sounds of the attack.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1','ezslot_4',116,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-1-0'); The first sounds from the tape are from Amie, she sounds surprised and asks if its still out there. I watched the docu and it was very engrossing. Keep in mind Tim had a microphone on his hip pocket. Jewel Palovak also states in her interview, that Tim was working with the park service, providing them with information on boat traffic, weather and other data collected. Tim Treadwell was born in New York in 1957 as Timothy Dexter, the third of five children. Up until that point, the bear had probably been sizing Tim up and making a judgment of threat level. Superintendent of Katmai National Park. Author: educationdocbox.com. Herzog, Werner. No gun, I know, not permitted in national parks at the time. Votes: 14 25.9% Run Like Hell! A physicians assistant in Aurora, Colo., Amie first fell in love with Treadwells book and eventually its author. More on this below too) (Readers Digest 2005). Perhaps it isn't too late and all of us can attain satisfaction in knowing who penned such a strongy narrated article. Again, such a great read! Emery, Mark. How can others properly cite your article and moreso, with it basically being as close to anonymous as any, how can we use your powerful undying words and say they are from an expert? There was also speculation that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had never had contact with in past years. I never forgot it since I first read it over 15 yrs ago - everything you wrote, in such detail, is sanely deductive, intelligent, thoughtful & totally haunting. Have no love for rattlers either. In the last few minutes of the film, we see Tim walking across the tidal flats with two red fox following close behind. We had radio contact with Alaska State Troopers Hill and Jones, who were forced to park their plane 300 meters away and had to hike through the thick brush, so we elected to wait at the base of the hill until Troopers Hill and Jones could catch up. Thankyou for your efforts getting the story right. We all hope when our time comes that it will be peaceful. God rest his soul and his girlfriend too. Feel sad for his girlfriend thought, seems to me he dragged her to that life. Some readers may find the following information and examination disturbing. For starters, this particular bear was unfriendly. His rants and fits were indicative of that age bracket. Ranger Ellis then requests that Willy Fulton be contacted by radio and asked that he remain nearby, if he could do so safely. Not to mention he ended up being responsible for several innocent Bears being killed, who would have likely never been SHOT if Idiot Treadwell had not offered himself as a MEAL, as he did. Not to mention the temper tantrum he threw on camera cursing the park service personnel for harassing him. When a bear comes into a camp, especially at night, we know that this is not a typical bear encounter but a bear that has possibly been conditioned to humans and human food, trash, or an older bear no longer able to feed on natural foods as efficiently, and we know that bears sometimes came into Tims camp at night during previous summer excursions. Treadwell is pictured here with Aimee Hugenard at Upper Kaflia Lake, less than 100 yards from where they would die a year later. I believe Tim left the tent and walked towards the bear a short distance, speaking softly to it as he had on numerous occasions, encouraging the bear to leave. Again thank you for your contribution to the very important informational web and you ability to make it seem like reading a short novel while only following FACTUAL information. That's hubris beyond arrogance to my mind. What a red neck a#$ who, although had his views refused to state the other's views with a shred of dignity even, at least for saying Treadwell did love these bear's but was, sadly, misinformed perhaps from having no formal education or training on these majestic beings. So if she did attempt to followneed to preserve that meal. Remember a cover is nice but a cover is not the book.. You did a well written report and most of us appreciate it. Until then, I bet there is a lot more to be uncovered. Authorities have listened to it, and it's supposed to be horrible. In fact, in the movie Grizzly Man, Tim himself had video taped the remains of a young bear that had been killed and eaten by other bears. Hundreds of video taped encounters like this have been filmed over the years with many different bears. He probably had a de-ja-vu feeling of inevitability. He did not die quickly, unlike some traumatic death victims who were lucky enough to drift off into a shock induced dream state. His early attempts at camping were almost comical. He was a fool who paid for his idiocy with his life. You ARE gay". Gilliland 2003, pg 10). In each case, Tim would leave the tent as soon as he heard a bear nearby, and would calmly talk to them in his often child like voice encouraging and forcing them to leave. Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 6, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, naturalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People. Pretty neat, and I have to admit I too have had similar experiences. Amie then walks over to Tim, and based on training in the hospital no doubt told Tim to lay still, but is then tested and driven away by the bear, and at this point in the attack I believe Tim realized that this was not a typical bear encounter, and that playing dead was not going to work and the wrong response, yelling at Amie to hit the bear!. When left with nothing else to do and confronted with extreme danger, screamed even louder in hopes that somehow this nightmare would end and the bear would once again leave Tim. In one of the more powerful scenes in Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film about the attack, Grizzly Man, the director himself bears witness to this auditory horror. Oh, and for "nature", can find the critters in the Hollywood hills. * (Disclaimer: This video content below is intended for educational and informational purposes only and is highly graphic in nature viewer discretion is advised) *. 2003, Treadwell Incident Review Board Member. (more on this below) A short conversation ensues as Amie and Tim try and determine if the bear is really gone. 2001, Discovery Channel on camera interview. Son u obviously ain't never been to Alaska cause your dead wrong dead dead dead wrong u can carry a gun. Why did he change his last name? The young gets to the age where, they will Challenge the older, leaders for Authority if he beaten he kick out the Clan. The more we learn, the less we seem to know or understand. As I researched this incident, I quickly realized that Tim and I had quite a bit in common and I totally understood his passion. The Brother Of? It seems to be more than just pure luck. Leave them be. After all men captivate us women with that magnificent staff of love. Sorry Jewel Palovak, but tis seems more like censorship than respect.. There are several reasons why you do not approach, or attempt to get any where near a bear, they are apex predators and they are not afraid of you. Any mistakes are mine alone, and hopefully I will catch them sooner or later. Your analysis helped greatly, thanks again.On a separate note, I saw that you worked at Yellowstone, and wanted to mention that my Father, Wayne, rode out with Dave Phillips MANY years ago (after college) before going off to medical school (Dave Phillips became a Park Ranger). Net Worth, Bio, Age, Parents, Relationship, Who Is Lorne MacFadyen? And I should also stress, that the footage in the video is extremely graphic in nature. 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