It seems that Marcus blames everything that has gone wrong on his wife, where Torvald takes the blame for him and Noras separation a bit more. I truly dont believe it was for the obvious rotting effect, but the way her rotten teeth would be perceived by the public. She, however, is not given other duties. As I read Marcus's letter to his wife, it reminded me a lot of the type of relationship that Nora and Torvald had. Looking at the definition she provides for Narcissism it is easy to see these traits in Nora throughout the entire story not just when she decides to leave. In the letter, Marcus also sets circumstances under which his wife can return to his home.But at the end, I don't think they have any right to say that they are real men. It's more of a job then something you should because you feel like doing. I dont think her husband is fitting to the role as well. Even if she did not bond with her children right after birth, parents grow to love them. }|y\kNvjJ2WlQ=Y-(lX1yJ8.u0?| ..v7vXsAnX]@). Their worlds had gotten bigger and their lives remained small.What do think about an industrial revolution hysteria? My personal belongings will all be sent to you. Nothing surprising for me here in this letter. Anne-Marie job is to clean the house and be there for Nora's children because Nora is so wrapped into Torvald in hos money. Looks like Ulrike might have the best of both worldsShe may continue being the lady of the house and continue to "sin greatly" if she does it it "sensibly" and keep up appearances. So reality is a women with a husband had job because she is cover by him but widows are able to get a job because they no husband to support them. Tufts wants the readers to realize that Nora is not illustrating any form of solidarity towards others. How could she walk out on them? All he's asking is for what any wife would want to do for her husband. He is attempting to inform her that hes fine without her, but the children and the house arent. His tone suggests that Marcus is simply giving his wife the option to return home, but doesn't fully care whether she does or not.There are few moments in the letter where Marcus actually does take some responsibility for their separation. (by the way, tinderxheart06 is actually laura but i can't figure out how to make my username my real namean dnot my screen name). Webmaryland no trespass letter; does faizon love speak spanish; cumbrian names for dogs; taylor kornieck salary; glendale colorado police scanner; rent to own tiny homes kentucky; marcus johnson jazz wife; moxico resources news. Nora does display some traits of a narcissistic person because of her obsession with how much money she has, and because her appearance and status in society is very important to her. WebIn the 1830s, John Downe wrote a letter to his wife in hopes of convincing her to join him in the United States. She also shows that she is a narcissist when she flaunts her money in front of Mrs.Linde. %PDF-1.3 Contemporary audiences have different sensibilities than audiences from Ibsen's day. Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Democratic Republic of the Congo, Brussels, January 26, 1960. He said "a women(or man) walking out on her husband(or wife) and children in order to fulfill her duties is is no longer the shock for us today that it was for the audiences at the nineteenth century." Audiences may not relate to 19th century socio-economic roles of women, but they can recognize narcissism when they see it. WebDescribe the tone of Marcus's letter to his wife (with examples). It was first published in Pound's Cathay, a 1915 collection of his works.Upon publication several of the poems Tuft's veiw of Nora as a narcissit is not to far off in ,y opinion, at first glance it does not seem that way. I find some very significant similarities and differences between Marcus and Torvald Helmer. In its negative sense, it is the use of rumors, lies, disinformation, and scare tactics in order to damage or promote a cause. A similarity that I see is that they both want their wife's back. I would have sent it back. I think another major difference is just the relationship itself, I mean from what I read in this letter there is no love between Marcus and his wife it's all just duty to one another and the children. Yet, when things do not go the way she wants them to, she packs up and leaves her family behind. Freedom is anonymity and she expresses that when she leaves because she is going to be all alone in this world. She hardly ever cares for her children and when she does, it is to play with them. A guy might be focused on the visual and notice something about you thats beautiful to him. Only then would she be allowed to return to "my house"(Marcus's) not "their house". However, in Marcus case he makes defines what are the duties that a woman should be doing in her house. As Marcus was harsh in many ways, wanting it only his way. After reading his letter, it also seemed like Marcus was viewing his wife on the level of slave. I think that is why they had to find a way to escape all of it, because money really isn't everything they just wanted to find some kind of happiness instead of always being controlled. In this letter from Marcus to his wife, Marcus has a very demanding tone-- he makes it seem that he has all the power, & something like its my way or the highway lady.Just like in "A Dolls House", both trovold and Mrcus bothe treat their wivies as poossesions. WebThe husband should give his wife his entire confidence and share the income, expected income with her so that a desired sum of money is given to the wife at a regular and In this remote situation, I am deprived in a great measure of this comfort. Similar to Marcus in the letter, and Torvald in the play A Doll's House, with men treat their wife's as second class citizens. He makes it certain that these are demands for my pattern, and that is only a list of failure and unhappiness in marriage. For Krogstad he needs his money not for himself and for his family and their stake and compares himself to his past love decision to stay in a hapless marriage because of money. The wife lives to obey and listen to the husband. So without knowing further details about the case I reserve my further judgment. While many people argue that Nora leaving was completely wrong, sometimes spouses need to leave. of course, she will speak as if she wished for Torvald to do well in his line of work and to be successful, but when he prospers, she does as well, effortlessly. She has free will. He seems to play more of the submissive role in the marriage. Maybe if Nora had not been so focused on herself, she would not feel the need to leave, maybe she would have realized that there are two sides to a relationship, and that she would take heed to the suggestion that she was a culpret in her own unhappiness even more, if not just as much, as Helmer was. helmer also gets angry while stating he wants her to stay and she needs to rethink her decision. Marcus doesn't write to her as a person (he never names her directly), but rather, he addresses the letter "Dear Wife". I wonder if Nora thinks about all that while being so into herself with this duties to self. Again, this is not HER happiness. Both women are expected to be subservient to their husbands, but somehow, Torvald seems warmer to Nora than Marcus to Ulrike. The opposite of narcissism would be unselfishness or my altruism and the only person who may fall into that category is Anne-Marie, the servant, so was she the happiest? But on further thought I decided just to cut off your wife and send it back to you because I have nothing to do with her. Narcissism is characterized as someone who has a large sense of self-importance, preoccupied with fantasies of success, requires constant attention, indifferent to other peoples feelings, and takes advantage of others to get what they want. Pardon me but for any normal women duties to self comes second to duties to her kids. Tuft attempts to visualize Nora as something different than what many before her claimed that she seems to be. In the Victorian era, men were the ones with the jobs and it was the woman's job to find a man with a good reputation and a good salary so they can continue their family legacy and live comfortably. For example she was told not to eat some kind of treat by her husband as a way to take care of her but because she only thinks about pleasing herself she eats it any ways behind his back. Tufts argues the fact that Nora is narcissistic - because in the end she thinks only of her well being and only about herself right before she leaves. When I read a Doll's house, I mostly just saw a strong sense of humanism. They wanted a life in which was more then just duty to your husband and family. ever since I've had a job the amount of money that I currently own has been a great supplement into making me feel either depressed or achieved. As if the simple reason of needing to tend to herself was not nearly as important. I agree with what almost everyone else has said about the similarities and differences between Torvald Helmer and Marcus. He states, " you will have to follow my wishes." She can come back and play the role that she hates or be out in the world as an outcast, that could prevent her from living a normal life. David. WebIn Harry Trumans Dear Bess Letters, he conversed with his wife about his political decisions to a great extent. Two very different men. And equality of both individuals coming together was something Marcus and Torvald clearly missed.Torvald makes statements such as "Are you sick?" And, as Tufts suggests, this story in todays timeframe does not sound so astounding as it was in the late 1800s. WebWhich of the following is one of Abigail Adam's reasons for writing the "Letter to John Adams"? Her husband was really a victim of the times.he did was expected of him.but now that Nora wanted change, he was given no choice in changing himself. She is creating this picture-perfect world for herself that she lives in, and shoves it in other people's faces just so they can't see her internal conflict that she is struggling with. Marcus took a brief moment of blaming himself to some wrong doing, when he address in the letter that I too have sinned, but it wasnt great as yours. While Marcus makes it apparnet that the wife has obligations to their husbands, that they need to do what the husband says.- I dont think either of them takes responsibility for the seperation, in fact Trovold makes accusations of Nora being sick, like mentally ill. Their happiness seems to be completely parallel to their economic status or at least their comfort (or lack thereof) with their economic status. John Downes letter to his wife creates an enthusiastic, persuasive tone to try to convince her to leave England and come to the United States. This is seen through friendship loses, divorce, and you can say adoptions, because a women or man is not happy with their life or not ready to commit to these things. Overall, I really just thought of A Doll's house as a summary of everyday life, how things can go from everyday normal life to a crumbling mess. Also, he wants to analyze if Nora is defined to be in narcissism or just to be self absorbed. It is her job to look and sound sweet and make nice home for her husband to come home to. The similarities are Helmer and Marcus assumes authorities over their wives. Not knowing the truth to this passage, Marcus would take his wife back under the condition that he would enslaved her as a wife. He continues by stating to their Rabbi "my wife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders" - this absolves him from any wrongdoing. It comes from not getting to know a person. When it comes to Torvald he was a little different, he wasnt that demanding with Nora in fact she sometimes seemed to be manipulating him. Nora does display some characteristics of a narcissist that are given by Tuft. You see the power struggle between husband and wife, and explore a crumbling house hold. They both, also, portray a sense of entitlement and superiority over their wives with regards to both the ways in which they refer to their wives, and their sets of expectations. This is again no way or form standing up for her rights but giving into her selfish desires and trying to "fix" her life based on releasing herself from her environment. >>>I think, he seems to not care if his wife will still return after reading the letter even he But the kids - they certainly will suffer from this entire ordeal. Which places her as a narcissistic, but truly she was not. Women in the society at this time could not live without a husband, unless they were a widow. It amazes me that you could be so unfeeling as to send me your wedding picture. I think Nora realizes that when her husband finds out what she did and gets angry at her, then suddenly "forgives" her immediately afterwards, that she really is trapped in her own little world and needs to get out and clear her head. He only stated that the separation was both of their fault in the beginning, but then said, it was more his wife's fault. He wasnt taking responsibility for his problems and made it sound like his sins were type of retaliation to his wifes sin. I do agree with the idea that Nora is narcissistic, in fact it hadn't even crossed my mind until I had read this article. The Marxist approach to "A Doll's House" provides a different way of examining this situation than I could have thought. His letter is very similar to Helmer's words in that they were both "the man of the house" and made all the rules. she does not care about ant one else's feelings. 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